Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Bex, Alice and Ellen watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we welcome guests Leonie and Lily to break down and discuss the whole of Season 1.
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Ellen: [00:00:00] Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of ABC show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice.
Bex: And I’m Bex.
Ellen: This week’s episode is a very special episode because this is our season one wrap up and to help us celebrate and maybe to berate episodes of the first season perhaps.
We are very pleased to welcome our first guest to the podcast. Leonie, welcome. Hello.
Leonie: Thanks for having me.
Alice: Thanks for joining us.
Leonie: Oh, I figured it was about time. Like, you know, we got together and actually chatted about something that wasn’t Supernatural. (laughs)
Ellen: So you’re another member of the Supernatural to [00:01:00] 9-1-1 pipeline.
Leonie: Yes.
Ellen: How, how did, have you watched 9-1-1 from the beginning or did you start more recently?
Leonie: Well, I watched it sporadically when Channel 7 actually had the episodes on, like, it was very sporadic. And then I’m like, nah, I gave up because, you know, it was just so out of order when they were airing it and stuff. So I’m like, nah.
Ellen: They aired it out of order?
Leonie: It was more like, you know, there was one episode, then three, four weeks later they’ll have like, the next episode and
Ellen: Right, okay.
Leonie: It was just ridiculous. So, like, you know, I saw people on our Discord chatting about it and stuff, and I’m like, nah, not gonna watch it. Nah nope. And then I basically got bullied into it. So, I’m like
Ellen: Can’t imagine who would have done that. (laughs)
Leonie: Ugh, a lot of people were bullying me into it. [00:02:00] And I’m like, alright, I’ll give it a go. And then, like, I watched the first episode. I’m like, oh, seems alright. Got Lily to, like, you know, sit down with me and watch the rest, like, of season one.
Yeah. And Yeah. It took us, I think, three weeks to get the whole season done.
Alice: Wow.
Leonie: Yeah, roughly about three weeks.
Ellen: The whole, the whole series? Like, all of the seasons or just the first season?
Leonie: Oh, all the seasons, it took us about six weeks. But the first, like, you know, the first season I, I got through. Because I wasn’t really that interested.
But, you know, I’m not a quitter, so I had to keep going.
Ellen: Excellent. Well, welcome, and we’ve got some thoughts, or each of us have got some thoughts on how, what we thought of season one, but we also have some feedback that people have sent [00:03:00] us about the show and about, like, this, this particular season.
So how should we approach this? Shall we start out by reading some feedback and see?
Bex: I think we should start with you, Ellen, because this is your very first time watching the first season of 9-1-1. This is sort of your first real introduction to the show. So now that you’ve made it through the first 10 episodes, what do you think?
If you weren’t doing this podcast, would you keep watching?
Ellen: Well, I would, because I mean, the whole reason I, like I’ve said this before, the whole reason I started watching was because of what happened in season seven and, you know the, Buck coming out and the fact that the, like spoilers, I feel like that’s unavoidable at the moment.
Everyone knows about that. But like we, as we said in the first couple of episodes, we’d been burned by possible relationships sort of being threatened to be happening and then not nothing coming of that with [00:04:00] Supernatural in particular. And this show seems to have, you know, be moving more positively towards that.
So I would be very happy to keep watching if, it’s been hell trying to stop myself from keeping on going because we’ve watched 10 episodes over 10 weeks and now I’m just like. Well, I’d really like to start season two straight away, but I’m going to have to wait.
So no, I am, I’m looking forward to getting stuck into the rest. But no, I really, I enjoyed the, like a lot of people have said that they didn’t rate the first season very highly compared to the rest, but I, I was hooked.
Leonie: I’m one of those people, like Ellen, I didn’t rate the first season that highly in my opinion either.
Ellen: Yeah. I mean, I I’ve had a look around in the IMDB comments and, you know, different places to see what other people thought of the first season, just to see if I could get some talking points for this particular [00:05:00] wrap up episode, to be honest. And a lot of people said that they weren’t sure like with the first season, whether they were supposed to be taking it seriously or if it was actually supposed to be like a, a situation comedy in disguise kind of thing.
Alice: I’d see that.
Like we’ve, we’ve said it in, in our episodes that we, we find the, the, the funny parts you know, and the quick turnaround to like a really dramatic and, you know, traumatic parts to be very quick. Like, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s hard to get a grip on the tone of the whole thing. So that’s been interesting. I found.
Alice: So many of the season one episodes end in like heartbreak. Like, they don’t just wrap it up into a nice little bow and it ends nicely at the end. Like, there are so many that end awfully.
Ellen: Yeah, we’ve got quite a few cliffhangers too throughout as well, where we’re not sure what’s actually happening.
Bex: [00:06:00] Which makes it incredibly easy to watch as a bingeable series on a streaming service, because each episode naturally flows into the next episode.
Alice: Yeah, I think I mentioned it on my, like, on the first or second episode that I binged the whole thing in about two days because I, I was like, Oh, this is episode 10. I thought I was on like episode three. Cause I just kept binging.
Bex: I did the same. I was trying to come up with my kind of thoughts on season one as a whole. And because every time I’ve watched this show, I have started at season one and just worked my way through following along with whoever is watching it for the first time, I almost don’t know where season one ends and season two begins. So it’s hard to break it up in my mind and work out, did I actually like season one? Or did I just continue to watching it?
Alice: Yeah, it’s been really good watching it week by week.
Bex: [00:07:00] Yeah. There wasn’t that natural break like we have now, like you’ve got Ellen where we can step back and go, okay, this is the season as a whole. I’m going to reflect on it. I, it’s just, I can reflect on 9-1-1 as an entire series, not specifically season by season, which I think is a little bit of a detriment when it comes to watching shows on a streaming service where you can binge everything. You don’t really get that time to reflect.
Alice: Yeah. There’s a lot more, like, watching it week by week for the podcast. There were episodes where I was like, wow, I, like, if someone had asked me what I thought about that episode originally, like “Karma’s a Bitch”, I would have been like “Yeah, it was fine!”. And then watching just that episode and having to stop, I was like, “Oh my God, I hate this episode.”
Ellen: Yeah, I did think that too. As I was, when I watch it on a surface level, it’s quite entertaining. Like but yeah, as we’ve looked more closely into it you can see that things are like, Hmm, so
Bex: it starts to fall apart.
Ellen: [00:08:00] Like the this, the, the emergencies themselves are kind of really kind of out there. But when you actually, do speak to some first, some real life first responders. They do go to some pretty crazy calls now and then, so these, these things that aren’t that far out there, I mean obviously the plane crash one, maybe that’s a bit extreme.
Like we don’t often have that sort of thing happening. Yeah.
Alice: But but they still happen.
Ellen: It happens. Yeah. But Would so many…
Leonie: But to that extreme, like, you know, it’s, yeah.
Ellen: Would so many extreme like… extremely traumatic calls happen to the same unit of firefighters every week? Like maybe not, but anyway one of the things that is, that I thought was interesting about this series is that they’ve got such a high, highly talented and awarded cast.
You know, they, these people are like Angela Bassett has been in so many movies and TV shows as well.
Alice: [00:09:00] Like, I didn’t realize she’s literally in the MCU and then she’s just in 9-1-1 and it’s like, ah, what?
Ellen: Yeah. Like I, that was like, I knew I recognized her. Like I was thinking like, obviously she’s been in heaps of movies, so I must’ve seen something that, that she was in previously, but I couldn’t think of anything in particular.
And then today when I was having a look at her IMDB profile and it said Black Panther, I’m like, Oh, of course, of course, of course that was her. Yeah. So yes. Anyway. She’s been, obviously she’s been in heaps of other things that I have seen, but that was the most recent. And you know, a lot of the other characters, the other cast as well, have been in lots of different TV shows and movies.
And so they’re, they’re doing a really brilliant job of acting their butts off.
Alice: Yeah. I mean, to be fair, Chim is also technically in the MCU. So
Ellen: they’re, they’re acting like they’re making the most out of some slightly dubious scripts, potentially, but they’re acting so great that you don’t notice.
Alice: Absolutely, yeah.
[00:10:00] It’s definitely the characters that bring you back.
Leonie: Well, you bringing up the scripts, like, you know, the multiple storylines made it easy to keep the attention, like, on the show for a little bit. But it got a little bit confusing with how packed the first few episodes were. It was like they were trying to jam like, you know, multiple things into one single episode in the first, maybe, two episodes?
Alice: Yeah, it is. Like, Chim’s Rebar. That’s episode two, right? Chim’s Rebar?
Bex: Yeah. No. The rebar’s number three.
Alice: Number three. Yeah, there you go.
Bex: So, number one’s the pilot. Number two was the County Fair Spider Man with the rollercoaster.
Alice: Right, yeah.
Bex: Number three was the Rebar. Rebar,
Alice: So, yeah. Massive first three episodes.
Ellen: Ah, the rebar. Do we want to actually go into the rebar thing at all, or shall we? I think we pretty much gave it, well, you know, said what we thought about it at the time.
Leonie: [00:11:00] Rebar is a thing of torture.
Alice: This is technically the OG rebar too, because it happened two years before Supernatural?
Bex: Yeah, this was like 2018.
Ellen: Someone got impaled by rebar in Buffy, like well before this, and they survived.
Alice: Yeah, so basically everyone survives getting impaled by Rebar.
Ellen: So everyone survives it, except for Dean, yeah.
Alice: Well, spoilers for the Supernatural ending.
Ellen: Oh, sorry. It’s been like, you know, three and a half years or whatever. I think we’re allowed.
Alice: Yeah, almost four years now. It’s crazy.
Ellen: Oh my god, really?
Alice: Yeah. Alright, so Ellen, do you have any predictions?
Ellen: Oh my word,
Alice: So now that Abby’s gone, we know that we’re getting at least one new character coming in.
Bex: Yeah,
Ellen: [00:12:00] yes. Yeah, I I hope that I know that… Oh God, I, I do know some things that I have been spoiled for a lot of things just by being unable to avoid it on Twitter mostly and, and Tumblr. But I’m hoping that Eddie will do a Castiel by coming in at a later season and just being loved immediately. And that’s my hope.
Bex: So, prediction, you don’t think, when do you think in season two Eddie is going to make his appearance?
Ellen: Oh, in the first, I know that it comes in the first episode, because, you know why though? Because on Disney, when you’re watching it, his face is in the episode, you know, thumbnail for the next episode, and I’m like, oh,
Bex: damn it, Disney.
Alice: The mouse does it again.
Ellen: As to how he will fit in the in the team. [00:13:00] I do feel that, that I think that maybe, or I don’t know if I’m saying this just because I know that, that he does end up fitting in real well with the team, but only there being four of the main kind of group does feel like one species short.
And maybe, maybe they could use a little extra you know, a, a different dynamic to come in make it a little different. I don’t know. I’m really sure. I’m just hoping that that’s what will happen.
Alice: And what do you think of the, like how the relationships will go in season two? So like, obviously the end of season one, we had Bobby and Athena going on a date, but do you think there’ll be like any developing relationships with the rest of the team?
Not so much like the team. Cause obviously like Hen’s married. [00:14:00] Like, so not necessarily the team, but do you think any of the team will explore their relationships in Season 2?
Ellen: Yeah, I hope so. Like, we didn’t really get to see much of Bobby and Athena being together. It’s just that one date so far. So, yeah.
I’ve heard things about what happens in the future with them, so I won’t go into that. In case there is anyone who is crazy like me and trying to avoid spoilers. But they both deserve a happy ending. So, I hope they do.
Leonie: I’ve got a question for you, Ellen. Are you hoping that Athena and Michael have a good relationship going forward?
Ellen: Yeah, for their kids, and for themselves. Like, they’ve obviously been great friends before, and they have separated, like, amicably so far. So, hopefully, they continue with that. And we, and, that we get to meet Michael’s new partner at some point, if they stay together. [00:15:00] So, that’d be cool.
Obviously, Buck has just lost Abby, and I don’t know, I don’t know if she ever comes back so far. I can’t remember if you told me that last week or not, but yeah, he, it’s funny, I was thinking earlier about Buck and how right at the start of the season, he was, you know, sleeping around with every girl that he could, you know, convince to come and sleep with him and he had this reputation, but that is only really in the first one or two episodes.
Like, as soon as he sort of starts…he meets Abby and starts sort of talking to her on a regular basis. We don’t see that anymore. And I’m not sure. I feel like maybe, maybe they just didn’t think that the series would go on for as long as it has, [00:16:00] but that playboy kind of image dropped very quickly and maybe just because he grew up over this season one a little bit and realized that what he was actually looking for was a relationship rather than just a series of flings, but yeah, I don’t know. I don’t want to go on about stuff that I think might happen because you guys are all sitting there going, “ah, well, definitely coming up in season two.”
Leonie: But are we, though?
Bex: We’re just collecting evidence for the season two wrap up where we go, now we’re going to play what Ellen thought was going to happen in the beginning and now we’re going to tell you what actually happened. (laughs)
Ellen: Yeah. Honestly, I’m just, I’m excited to meet Eddie and see what’s happening next.
Alice: Yes. Definitely.
Ellen: [00:17:00] I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you a funny story about these directors. if you like. I was looking at the the writers and directors stuff to see if there was like, you know, if there was certain episodes that had things in common with the writers and whatever.
And, and randomly, separately last week, I had watched the episode of Doctor Who, which was the Regency Romance one. The first one. Which is called “Rogue”, which is absolutely my new favorite Doctor Who episode ever, just because I’m a Regency Romance junkie, and it was brilliant, and extremely gay. But anyway, it, it has… um, um, god, brain is gone blank….
It has Jonathan Groff in it, who I absolutely love. Mostly because My daughter watched Frozen like every single day, multiple times for some months maybe years some time ago and I just fell in love with Kristoff and now I love Jonathan Groff. But anyway, he was in there and then I was looking at what else he had done [00:18:00] on one of the websites and I clicked through to Glee and I didn’t even know that he was in Glee.
Bex: Yes, he was.
Leonie: Oh, he was amazing in Glee.
Ellen: Yeah, I didn’t watch Glee, some of it, but I didn’t realize that he was in it. So anyway, then I’m looking at, I’m looking at the Glee cast list and whatever. And then I looked at the, the showrunners, like the writers of it, and I’m like, hang on, one of this, one of this name, one of the names on here is Brad Falchuk.
And I’m like, hang on, that name rings a bell. Turns out that he’s one of the creators of 9-1-1 as well.
Leonie: Ryan Murphy should also ring a bell too.
Ellen: Right, yeah. So it all just went full circle when I was looking at these things. I’m like, whoa, what’s going on here?
Alice: That’s why we keep picking on 9-1-1 for having outrageous plot lines like Glee, because it’s literally weewoo Glee.
Ellen: No, I hadn’t made that connection before. [00:19:00] That’s right. Maybe there needs to be more singing.
And he also was the creator of American Horror Story, so there you go, which Angela Bassett was also in.
Leonie: Yep. Ryan Murphy is definitely versatile when it comes to the creation that falls from his brain. Like, we’ve got 9-1-1, we’ve got Glee, American Horror Story, like, it’s just, he’s great in so many different genres.
Bex: Yeah, I think that’s why Fox signed on for 9-1-1, even though it was a procedural that probably wasn’t going to differentiate itself too much from anything that was on the air at the time, because they trusted the creative genius that was Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk, and Tim Minear working together. You’ve got those three working together. It’s bound to be good.
Leonie: They’re like a dream team as such.
Ellen: [00:20:00] And, and helped with attracting the talent that they did like with this cast as well.
Alice: Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Bex: Oh yeah, when the, when season one was being promoted it was Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk, Angela Bassett, Peter Krause. They were the names that were being bandied about as to why you needed to watch this show.
Ellen: Yeah. Okay.
Bex: Oh and Connie Britton, Connie Britton was up there as well.
Ellen: I mean it obviously has worked for them because eight seasons later, you know, well seven so far. But.
Bex: It was incredibly popular. As I was saying before we were recording, this was a mid season replacement for Fox, so they only ordered ten episodes for the first season.
Within the first two episodes 9-1-1 was rating higher than any show had in the previous year when you’re taking into consideration all of the different ratings methods that they use, and by episode three, Fox had already ordered a second season. Which I think is a rather quick turnaround.
Alice: Absolutely. It’s crazy. Like, I don’t know if that even happens anymore post strike.
Ellen: [00:21:00] Yeah. Usually they wait till the end of the season.
Bex: Yeah. I don’t think I’ve watched anything on like free to air network television to know everything that I’ve watched that’s new is on a streaming service.
Alice: Same actually, which is actually funny.
Like, so I don’t watch free to air. I’ve only got streaming services. I don’t have an antenna. And the only like free to air stuff I got used to be at work cause my old job, we sold TVs and we’d have them plugged in. And I saw so much about Lone Star that I had no idea that it was a spinoff. And then Twitter was just like, Oh, right, right, right.
And I’m just like, but where’s Rob Lowe? I don’t understand. And yeah, that’s a different TV show,
Ellen: almost the same, but different.
Alice: Yeah. All right, so what’s everyone’s favorite episode from season one? There’s only ten to choose from, but Or should it be, what’s everyone’s favorite episode and why is it not “Karma’s a Bitch”?
Bex: (laughs) [00:22:00] I think my favorite for season one, I know it’s got trauma, but “Next of Kin” is probably my favorite. Just because I think that that’s the episode where the 118 that I know and love from subsequent seasons sort of starts to solidify. That’s when the found family kind of kicks in.
That’s when they really kind of push the tugging at the heartstrings because some, a member of the 118 is in danger and we see the way that the emotional ripples resonate through the rest of the 118 because of that. So I know it’s like a terrible episode because we’ve got rebar and Chimney’s in danger and, and all of that, but of the 10, that is my favorite for this season.
Leonie: Nice. I’ve got two. I’ve got “Point of Origin.” Where we find out about, like, you know, [00:23:00] Bobby’s past. And it actually makes Bobby a human in my eyes. Because in the first two episodes, he seemed to me he was quite robotic. Like, going through the, like, you know, motions. Yep. Okay. This is my job. This is what I’m doing. Blah, blah, blah.
Alice: Yeah, just like perfect, perfect fire captain.
Leonie: Yeah. Like he was just, it was too perfect. Yeah. And I’m like, okay, there’s something about him, like that kind of irked me in the beginning. But then you had like, you know, see like episode five happened and you’re like, well, damn, okay. That boy’s been through something.
But absolutely like that storyline actually broke me. I cried in that episode because it just, it was so heartbreaking. Yeah. Which leads on to my second favorite episode, which was “Heartbreaker”.
Bex: Yeah, that one’s a close… that’s a [00:24:00] contender for me too.
Leonie: Oh, because the psycho loony? She’s amazing! My goodness!
She was awesome! She was brilliant! And like, who would have thought Superglue, man? Superglue!
That was, yeah, they’re my two favourites. By far.
Yeah, good choices.
Ellen: Yeah, I don’t know, I don’t know if I can get past the the choking on the bread and the tracheotomy thing in that episode. (laughs) It was just, it was so out there. I was just like, really? Yeah, that’s a bit funny. That was like, Lil and I were sitting there watching it, and it was like, Mum, he’s choking.
Mum, he’s choking. Mum! Mum! I’m like, ah, it’s all good, he’s with Abby. He’ll be fine. It’s like, but he’s choking.
Alice: He chokes and we don’t get a season two, it’s fine.
Leonie: Yeah, it’s great, it’s fine.
Ellen: It’s cool, just grab a steak knife. Stick it in there, no problem.
Leonie: Yeah, you know, and a straw.
Bex: Steak knife and a pen from the hostesses.
Leonie: [00:25:00] Oh, a pen, that’s right. I don’t know where I went with straw, but like, it was tube shaped, so still did the job.
Alice: That’s it. No, the straws are all paper now. They wouldn’t work. They’d just collapse.
Leonie: That was the one and only time I actually liked a certain character was that episode.
Bex: All right, we’ll get to that in a minute. Ellen pick an episode, any episode.
Ellen: Oh, I can’t just pick any episode. I really liked “Point of Origin” as well just because of the, I thought that was a really well made episode, like the sort of, all of the stuff with Bobby and even like the, the part where they lose Abby’s mum and have to go and find her, you know, that, it was just, I just enjoyed that, the way that that was made.
But, I think, I also can’t go past “Full Moon (Creepy AF)” for just pure hilarity
(laughs)
Ellen: [00:26:00] this is, this is definitely the episode where I was like, okay, so this show isn’t actually trying to be serious. It is just
Leonie: all the women going into labor at yoga. Oh yeah.
Bex: Oh my God. The tapeworm.
Ellen: The tapeworm. It’s the tapeworm. it’s just all of it.
Leonie: I happily forgot about the tapeworm.
Alice: We will never forget about the tapeworm.
Ellen: I laughed. I laughed so hard. So
Alice: I was actually going to say “Full Moon” as well but my two are sort of like opposite ends of the spectrum. So full moon was definitely like, I watched it at night.
It was dark. The guy in the like reflection creeped me the fuck out. I was like, yep. Cause I was like, creepy as fuck. Like what? And then I watched it and I was like, yeah, no, this is, this is creepy. I’m like messaging friends and I’m like, can someone tell me a lighthearted story right now? Cause like I am scared to look in the windows.
But then my second one, I think like I’m going favorite is in most memorable, like the one that [00:27:00] really sticks out in my brain when I think about season one, one and “Worst Day Ever”, which is the plane crash. I didn’t expect something like that to happen so early. And yeah, it’s like, it’s intense.
There’s a lot of good teamwork. Like Buck shows that he doesn’t just go in swinging. Like he thought about tying the cut to the thing to get the people out it’s got like, you know, the mother and son and Bobby being like, no, I’m going to save both of you. And then, yeah. And then Bobby obviously relapsing at the end just broke my absolute heart.
When you just see him go down to the beach and collapse onto his knees, it’s like, Oh, Bobby.
Ellen: That was another really well made episode. I thought. Great production.
Alice: Yeah, I didn’t expect such a big, big budget episode so early.
Ellen: Yeah.
Leonie: That episode also, you got to see the actual familial dynamic starting to form between Bobby and Buck.
Alice: [00:28:00] Yeah, definitely.
Leonie: Like, the first couple of episodes was like, I’m your superior officer, like, you know, you’ve been an absolute dick, you’re fired, whatever. And then in that episode, you actually got to see the familial dynamic just starting. To bond and starting to like, you know, become integral into the storyline.
Alice: Yeah, like when Bobby’s like, no, I’m not leaving and Buck’s like, you need to get out and so he like… Yeah, it’s just so good in so many ways. And like Buck just looking terrified on the like boat ride up to the plane just kills me every time Yeah.
Leonie: Because did we know the timeline that Buck’s actually been in, like, in the 118? That was about six months, wasn’t it?
Bex: Yeah. Six months. Yeah.
Leonie: Yeah. So yeah,
Alice: he was a new baby firefighter.
Leonie: But that would have been his first major disaster.
Alice: Yep. Yes. That’s it. Like, a couple weeks beforehand he was fired. And then all of a sudden he’s going to a plane crash and there’s just bodies in the water and ugh. Chills.
Ellen: [00:29:00]What about least favorite, Alice, do you want to start? (laughs)
Bex: Does anybody have a least favorite that is not “Karma’s a Bitch?”
Ellen: Yeah, I, okay. Controversially. I didn’t love like “Heartbreaker”. I like I, okay. “Karma’s a Bitch” was sort of a bit of a yawn episode altogether, but I thought that. Like, in “Heartbreaker”, we didn’t, like, a lot of the stuff that happened was just not as exciting as any of the other episodes. Like, I don’t know.
Alice: Yeah, fair. Okay. I’m going through the list trying to come up with one that’s not “Karma’s a Bitch”, but it’s just “Karma’s a Bitch”.
Leonie: [00:30:00] Yeah, well “Trapped”, besides “Karma’s a Bitch”, “Trapped” was my second least favorite episode. I think it was just mainly because, yeah, the whole, I don’t know, the whole episode as one.
you know, the dude falling asleep in a dumpster and then Like, it just, I don’t know, too much happened in that one episode. Okay. If they just chose like, maybe one or two storylines, maybe it would have been better, but they just tried to jam it in there. And I’m just like, hmm.
Alice: Honestly, the thing that, like, saved “Trapped” for me was the Buck and Bobby relationship.
Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. Sorry. I was going to say that the thing that saved it was Athena getting handcuffed to the bed. And Hen having to rescue her. That was the best part of that episode. (laughs)
Bex: Honestly, the thing that saved “Trapped” was that it was doing the same thing that “Karma’s a Bitch” was doing, where it was every single storyline was going on theme, but where “Karma’s a Bitch” was literally, just how many storylines can we fit in that are going to be about karma.
[00:31:00] “Trapped” still managed to have an A storyline connecting all of the things together. So while you were going out and dealing with guys who were, you know, trapped in a hoarder’s house and you had the, the, the mother and the son in the elevator, you still had the buck and the Abby’s storyline kind of threading their way through it, holding everything together.
There was that emotional core to the episode that “Karma’s a Bitch”was missing.
Leonie: I think it was just because there was two jam packed back to back episodes.
Alice: Yeah. Fair.
Leonie: I think that threw it for me because like, you know, “Karma’s a Bitch”. That was just, oh, that was bad TV. So bad TV. And then, yeah, like, you know, the following one is like, you know, okay, let’s see how many times we can have people who are trapped in this episode, and it’s just like, come on. Didn’t we just live through this? Do we really have to live through it again?
Bex: Maybe that’s where the advantage of watching it one week at a time [00:32:00] kicks in, because yes, it’s the same kind of format to the episodes, but we had the break in between the two of them.
We could really differentiate the two of them and see that. Oh yeah. Okay. Same format, different writers, different directors, different treatments. different results.
Leonie: Yeah. And then it comes back to what you said earlier about like, you know, the streaming services where you can like, you know, binge watch these things and it’s like, you don’t get that break between the two same episodes.
In my opinion. Yeah.
Alice: So it did definitely sort of blur into one for you.
Leonie: Yeah, it did. And I’m just like, Oh,
Alice: honestly, when we like first started, like back when we first started the podcast, Bex and I kind of made a joke about how like, there are a lot of episodes where they stick to one theme, but I think “Karma’s a Bitch” and “Trapped” are the only two that really do it in this season.
Ellen: Episode 10 does though, “A Whole New You”.
Bex: [00:33:00] Yeah “Let Go” did it I think “Next of Kin” did it, but that was more, There is a general theme that we’re kind of going to touch on not as specific as every single storyline has to, A, mention the episode title, B, it has to be specifically related to the episode title.
Alice: Yeah, it’s the mentioning the episode title, like, yep, I get it. And like, that’s one thing that Kristen isn’t, like, that’s one of her weaknesses, definitely, is that she, tells and not shows. Like, she’s just like, Oh, this thing happened and it’s like, okay, we didn’t actually need to be told that thing happened.
Like “Karma’s a Bitch”. They literally have Buck say such obvious things constantly and we’re like, yep, we, we got it.
Leonie: We have eyes. Yeah. We saw that. We can see this. Yeah. You don’t need to tell us what we see.
Alice: And like even the tiger thing, like there wasn’t like a background until Hen was just like, “Oh, it’s the same guy that did this thing.”
And then we get a background and it’s like, we couldn’t have got the background first. Like,
Leonie: [00:34:00] Although I did cheer with the tiger thing. I’m sorry. That was the only saving grace out of that whole episode.
Alice: Is the tiger. Yeah. Excellent actoring.
Leonie: Was the tiger and the pregnant ladies. Wait, not pregnant ladies
Bex: No no, that was “Full Moon”
Leonie: Yeah. As you can tell, they were my two actual highlights from that whole season was just those two events. Because they’re like, you know, that far fetched, that it ingrained in my brain.
Alice: But but yeah, Kristen’s definitely as subtle as, like
Bex: A sledgehammer?
Alice: A sledgehammer, there we go.
I was like, a 2×4? Over the back of your head? And yeah, that’s Like, obviously I don’t want to get too much into later seasons, but that’s definitely my issue with season six as well is that it’s all just, Oh, this happened and then this happened. It’s like, okay, you couldn’t have shown us that. Like, why are you telling us?
Bex: All right. Another question for the group. Who is your favorite character out of
Alice: season one? Oh, this one’s easy for me. Yeah. Chim and Buck.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: [00:35:00] Yeah. It started like, obviously I started watching the show because of Buck and like I knew. Like I knew Chim’s actor was in it. And like, I’m a fan of his acting.
I did not expect to love Chim as much as I did. Like when episode, like, you know, the first couple of episodes, he’s just like lying about his, like what he does on the job and all this sort of stuff. I was just like, Oh, what a wanker. And then after the rebar, when he came back, I’m just like, yeah, he’s like, he’s, I love the pop culture references.
I love his relationship with the team. And then. Yeah, like they stay my favorites. So definitely Buck and Chim.
Bex: Okay.
Ellen: Very good. How about you Bex?
Bex: Ellen? Favorite character?
Ellen: Oh, I was going to throw it back to you. My favorite. So I love, I also love Chim, but I also found that I really loved Hen. [00:36:00] And even after she broke my heart with the whole cheating on Karen thing. I still thought she was great. I forgave her as Karen did. And I’m hoping that those two will get their act together. Like you said that in one of the episodes that they do stay together for some, for like the rest of the season of the show.
So that makes me happy. But I love that she is so, you know, caring and you know, also can have a good laugh and make a joke at the other’s expense when it calls for it. And I don’t know. I thought she was great.
Alice: Bex?
Bex: Actually I think Leonie should go next.
Alice: Bex is putting this off.
Leonie: Oh, I, I’m still trying to think, like, because none of them actually really stuck out as my favorite in the first season. [00:37:00] But if I had to choose, it’ll be between Hen and Athena.
Alice: Not Abby, Leonie?
Leonie: (clears throat) I’m assuming we’re getting into that next.
Alice: (laughs) We will, we will.
Leonie: I will hold my thoughts over till then.
Ellen: Alright, Bex.
Leonie: Now Bex, who’s yours?
Bex: This is gonna be controversial, but for season one, my favorite character is Abby. Look, I adore Connie Britton. So as soon as I saw that Connie was in the show Abby was immediately going to be a character that I was going to be watching closely.
And I very much identified with Abby a little bit. I mean, I think storyline wise, my… I would probably identify closer with Athena, the things that she’s going through in season one I very strongly relate to. [00:38:00] But I also kind of identified with not exactly what Abby was going through, but how Abby was feeling in this season.
Alice: Do you mean trapped?
Bex: A little bit. Unfortunately, I didn’t have a hot County Fair Spider Man to come and jump in that trap with me alas but yeah, I’ve, I’ve enjoyed Abby’s scenes. I enjoyed her relationship with Buck. I was very sad to see that Abby walked away at the end of the season.
And I. I still miss her. I still, I still like her as a character, I liked her as a 9-1-1 dispatcher. I mean, Buck gets an honorary mention, but I think Buck is just like a series favourite.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: [00:39:00] I can’t specifically say what season he is my favourite, he is just like, a favourite overall. So if we’re going specifically for season one my favourite is Abby and I will fight you on this, Leonie. (laughs)
Alice: Oh, I do want to give an honourable mention to Carla. I love Carla so much. Like, Bex often just gets random messages going, “remember when Carla did this?”
Bex: You sent me one the other day.
Alice: Literally, I think it was yesterday. I’m just like, remember Carla? It was literally yesterday. I just checked. (laughs)
Leonie: Carla is amazing though.
Like, you know, Carla is just, oh, she’s, she’s just so warm and I love her.
Alice: Yeah. She’s fantastic. She’s like, she’s funny. She’s caring. Like, we don’t get any background, we just get her there helping everyone.
Leonie: Yeah, she’s very understanding.
Alice: I want her as a friend.
Leonie: Me too.
Ellen: [00:40:00] It was, it was strange actually because in, like after the first person that Abby had there helping, when Carla came in at first, I was like oh god, there’s another person here to take advantage of Abby, you know, like that was the kind of vibe that I got to start with. But you know, obviously as the series went on you know, it turns out that she’s really lovely, but I don’t know, it just seemed like a point where they could have been, you know, extra drama inserted into the story, but they didn’t, they didn’t take that.
They just, you know, decided to make her lovely and I I don’t just she’s like stay as a member of the cast in future season like that doesn’t really seem
Bex: We’re not gonna tell you
Alice: maybe. Who knows?
Ellen: Because I mean Abby’s gone, and Patricia’s gone. So you know,
Alice: is Patricia gone? No, I’m kidding. Patricia’s gone.
Bex: This isn’t Supernatural.
Alice: (laughs) Oh, sorry. My bad. Wrong show. I was thinking Mary Winchester!
Bex: [00:41:00] For the most part, people on this show, if they’re dead, they stay dead.
Ellen: Okay. She’s not going to come back as a, as a zombie or something. Good. Excellent.
Bex: Yeah. That’s season two’s Halloween episode. They’ve got to go out and kill all the zombies.
Alice: God’s sister doesn’t doesn’t resurrect her.
Bex: No.
Alice: All right. Are we going into least favorite character?
Ellen: All right, Leonie, go on and tell us about Abby.
Alice: Let me get a drink.
Leonie: Okay. So I did love Abby in the beginning. I did. She was real badass. Like, you know, the way that she led that little kid and the
Bex: The home invasion storyline.
Leonie: Yes. Thank you. I’m like, I know what the word is, but it’s escaping me at the moment.
Like, when she did that, that was amazing. Like, that just showed how badass she was. [00:42:00] Like, you know, I felt for her, like, you know, looking after her parents, like her mum with Alzheimer’s. Like, that hit me really, like, really hard. But, damn, the way she treated Buck at the end. When she’s just like, her mum died, and then Whoa, that’s a really terrible human being, man.
Like, you know, yeah, she spent her life demoting, like, devoting herself to others, and It’s just Oh, she’s infuriating, because like, you know, you had your chance to live your life, woman. I don’t know. It’s hard to articulate how much I actually hate her in words, because every time I see her face I’m just like, I hate you.
But I love Connie Britton, don’t get me wrong, I absolutely loved her in Nashville. She’s a brilliant actress, it’s just, I don’t know, she was very one dimensional as a character in 9-1-1, in my opinion.
Bex: [00:43:00] See, no, I’m gonna disagree with you on this. But then again, maybe… maybe I just, because I sympathize with Abby and I can see where she is coming from, the way that her character was written. Do I think that she necessarily made the correct, made the best decision?
No. Do I think it was the best decision for her? Yes, do I think that…
Leonie: Oh, ultimately, yeah, I agree with that. Like, it was her best decision, but Like, it was just the way she did it. Like, if you’re in a relationship with somebody, shouldn’t you talk about, like, you know, Oh, by the way, I’m gonna go to Ireland?
Alice: Yeah, I definitely feel like the writers did her a disservice at the end. They were like, oh, well, she’s leaving, so let’s just fuck her over.
Leonie: They used her grief. Like, you know, to steamroll her character’s ending. Instead of making her grief feel relatable, [00:44:00] sort of like, you know, they’re just like, okay, my job here is done. I’m gone.
Alice: Like, all we needed was one conversation with Buck going, look like I feel lost. I need to get outside. And it would’ve been fine, but instead they wrote her like literally just being like, oh yeah, I bought a plane ticket. Bye.
Leonie: Yeah, they assassinated the character built, like, you know, the character that they built, like, you know, making her badass and then, like, just turning her on her head and just basically cancelling it all out and just making me hate her.
Because it’s like, how could you be, like, you know, this is not how you act in a relationship. This is like, you know, yeah, I get that your mum died, like, you know, and that’s a big change in your life because a majority of your life has been looking after your mum who was sick. But now you’ve got, like, nothing.
Like, there’s nothing for you now. It’s like, you’ve got Buck, you’ve got your job, you’ve got your life.
Bex: [00:45:00] But did she though, is the question. Because everything that she had, being a 9-1-1 dispatcher, her relationship with Buck came from being a 9-1-1 dispatcher. And all of that was in order to be able to care for Patricia.
Patricia was the kingpin holding everything together and now that Patricia was gone, that anchor was gone, she was adrift. I think
Leonie: she’s basically lost. Yeah,
Alice: like every time she looked at her dining room it was Patricia.
Bex: Yeah. I think that it was a, shitty decision, but I think it was a very human decision.
I think it was a decision a real decision It wasn’t a perfect television or a movie decision It was I could imagine that happening in real life being a relationship with someone having them just make a shitty selfish decision and I think that sometimes that’s okay to see that your [00:46:00] characters are human, that they are fallible, that they do make the shitty decisions.
Leonie: Like, yeah, she did deserve to be selfish. Like, she actually did deserve to be selfish after everything she went through. I just think it was a shitty way that she did it.
Bex: All right, I’m gonna pose it to you this way. Do you think that if she wasn’t in a relationship with Buck, would you still think that it’s a shitty decision?
Leonie: No. No. Because she was in that relationship. Yeah, it may have been. than a new, new ish relationship. If she wasn’t in a relationship and single I would have been like, whoa, here you go girl, this is great.
Alice: Yeah, and I would have been just fine if she, like, all we needed was one conversation with Buck and I would have been absolutely fine with it.
[slight gap here because Ellen’s recording dropped out and she had to reconnect]
Alice: So Leonie and Bex had a big rant about Abby. [00:47:00] And then Lil, who originally was just like, no, I’m not feeling up to it. I’m sitting in the background and she’s like, okay, I have thoughts. And so now Lil’s going to do a special guest pop in.
Lily: Hi.
Ellen: Hi Lil!
Alice: To agree with Bex basically.
Bex: Vindicated.
Lily: So I’m just sitting in the background sending paragraphs to Mum about how she’s wrong about Abby. The internal rage was getting so much, I was frustrated.
Leonie: There was also hand movements and this very disgusting face like on the verge of “I’m gonna stab you with something if you don’t stop.”
Lily: Because like she’s over here shaming a woman for her choices she made after everything in her world fell apart. Like dude, are you serious right now?
Alice: Okay, do we want to do a quick intro, like, who Lil is, and
Bex: I think we should. Lil, introduce yourself.
Lily: I am Lily, I am the daughter of this woman here, Leonie, and I was, I’ve been dragged into multiple fandoms against my will.
Leonie: [00:48:00] That pretty much sums it up.
Lily: I am deep into character analysis whenever I watch a show, movie, etc. So I argue a lot with Mother based on opinions and analysis of characters actions a lot, so.
Leonie: Facts, man. Facts.
Ellen: Well, welcome.
Lily: So the reasons Mother is wrong.
Leonie: (laughs) Dot points.
Lily: Dot points. Not even dot points. Paragraphs. So from what I remember with Mum talking earlier, is that she said that she (Abby) was a bad person.
Bad, you called her, oh, that’s the actions of a horrible person. So, in regards to that, from someone that, all of us have watched the episodes with her in regards to it. [00:49:00] We watched her struggle with her own feelings about her mum struggling with her, like, Alzheimer’s and her other conditions and the fact she had an unsupportive like carer.
The fact that she picked up all the slack that her other family members got down. She had a job to support her mother. She had fractured relationships with her friends because of her time spent. She didn’t want to go too far into it with Buck because she knew she was unavailable, but Buck made her comfortable enough to get that close to her.
And then, when everything fell apart. Her world was built based around her mother. Everything around her was based on the fact she cared for her mum. So it’s like a house of cards and someone just pulled the bottom card out and now she needs to be able to build that card house on her own and she doesn’t know how to communicate those feelings to Buck because she didn’t know how to.
She hasn’t been shown how to. [00:50:00] Her mother is struggling, she conquered to her mother, her mother is dead. She can’t.
Alice: Thanks Lil. (laughs)
Lily: She’s like, she can’t. She has a support net that she can see holes in. So she decided to go on a whim. And that whim led her to a (beeped out)
Bex and Leonie and Alice: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No spoilers, no spoilers.
Bex: Sorry, I forgot. Season one only, Lil.
Ellen: It’s okay, I didn’t hear that.
Leonie: We do season two.
Lily: It led her to discover her own journey later, outside of what we can see. We don’t know what’s happening in her life. All we see is Buck struggling. So I see why Mum gets upset. Because all she sees is her leap. And then everyone left behind.
Bex: [00:51:00] You were saying something about Leonie being extra empathetic and the reasons why she’s probably extra empathetic to Abby’s situation before. Do you want to go into that again?
Lily: Mum loves Buck. She…
Leonie: I was Abby.
Lily: Mum was Abby. She dealt with a… Not dealt with, but cared for a parent with health issues and made different decisions than Abby did.
And so I see why Mama disagrees and hates the way the writers wrote Abby in the end, how she fell apart. Because Mum didn’t fall apart.
Leonie: I see the selfishness in her actions as something as unrealistic in that time. Like it’s just, yeah. I don’t like selfishness, and I think because Abby showed that selfishness, that just automatically showed me as like, God, I hate you. Like, you know, because
Alice: Do people deserve to be selfish sometimes, though?
Leonie: [00:52:00] I know they do, I know they do. But it’s just my hatred for Abby, man.
Lily: Like Abby deserved all the selfishness after dedicating everything she had to everyone else. She had no eggs left in her own basket because everyone else had smashed them.
Leonie: That’s a good analogy, actually. You’re right about that.
Lily: So, she needed to go make her own eggs from scratch, build up all the cracks, and go make her own basket again. So, she did. And that came in the form of a plane ticket. I would make the same decision.
Alice: Yeah, to a place that her mother really wanted to go to, so it was like a dedication to her mother as well.
Lily: She wanted to do what her mum always wanted to do, and be like, okay. I have nothing holding me here other than the bonds I’d made because of my mother in times when I needed support, but now I need to make my own support.
Leonie: So she was basically what you’re saying, what I’m surmising from just like, you know, that last little section, she was using Buck as a distraction.
Lily: [00:53:00] She was using Buck as a distraction. That is a negative trait, yes, but does not make her a bad person. Everyone has done something in their own lives. Even Buck used sex and other women and to, you know, deal with feeling… Fill a hole. Literally.
Leonie: Lily! (laughs)
Ellen: So to speak.
Lily: Look, if you get up to some antics with an exotic animal collection person, after she’s getting strangled out by a boa constrictor, I think you have some issues of your own. (laughing)
Ellen: I forgot about that.
Lily: So, you, you’re judging Abby based on grief filled feelings, but you’re not judging Buck on the fact that he was a manwhore?
Leonie: He was. Now, we love Buck.
Lily: Yeah, and why don’t we now love Abby for getting her shit together?
Leonie: [00:54:00] It’s too early to tell that story.
Lily: I’m not, she got a shit together and left.
Leonie: No, I’m just saying it’s too early to tell that story.
Lily: She got her shit together and left.
Leonie: Yes, okay. (Laughs) I just got schooled by my child.
Ellen: It’s also sad for Buck, from Buck’s point of view, because, I mean, Buck was you know, obviously in a position where he was looking for something more than what he had. Because we saw him asking that, that first girl for her number and she was just like, no, thank you. But, then he found, he found something with Abby and then, unfortunately, they both maybe, well, Buck was ready for something more, but Abby wasn’t.
So then it was sort of, I guess, I don’t want to say bad luck, but just a bad situation for him to get into.
Leonie: So poor timing, sort of. Yeah, yeah.
Ellen: She couldn’t give him what he needed and vice versa kind of thing.
Bex: I think this segues into we got some [00:55:00] feedback from listeners and people on social media who have been following the show about their thoughts on season one.
And Macy had some thoughts specifically about the Buck and Abby relationship that kind of fits in here. So I’m just going to read that and then we can talk about it.
Macy says that, “Abby was a lovely character and I enjoyed her a lot, but I couldn’t see her with Buck. She was too old for him. Age gaps are not my thing. I could understand what she saw in him, not in a condescending way, but he was exciting and young and handsome and he chased her. She was stuck and he was like a fantasy. But him returning her feelings was odd. She was not his type at all. Buck was young and impulsive. To go from a self-proclaimed sex addict to a slow burn monogamous relationship with little to no sex for a long period of time was not in character. Or, they didn’t show his growth enough to warrant that plotline, especially so early on.”
I [00:56:00] disagree with most of that. But I’m gonna let you guys talk about what you think about that.
Ellen: Thank you very much to Macy for sending in feedback. We really appreciate it. Thank you. And thank you for listening.
Bex: So I think Ellen, you were kind of going,
Ellen: yeah, I kind of said that at the, at the start, like that he did seem to go from, you know a sex addict, I guess, for, for self diagnosed terms at the, at the beginning, yeah, at the beginning of the series to then. you know, just losing that in the first three episodes, I guess, like even less, like in the first episode yeah, it just seemed a bit fast for me.
Like we didn’t, maybe we didn’t have quite the development that we needed for that.
Alice: It’s definitely hard when you’ve got 10 episodes to sort of cram everything in. [00:57:00] Like you, you know, they might’ve wanted to do more of a slow burn with Buck, but they were like, well, we’re running out of time.
Bex: I can imagine they would have written the entire ten episodes, got the storyline, got the story arcs, and wanting to tell as much of the story as they could, not knowing whether they were going to have season two.
And by the time they got, you know, the third episode was airing, they got season two, Announced they’d probably filmed up to eight or nine by then So there was not really time to be able to go back and oh, okay We can actually take our time and tell these stories now. They were already locked and loaded
Lily: They definitely rushed it. From what I think With Buck and the reason he went from like a hundred to like ten percent to zero is…
Bex: just remember we’re season one only
Lily: Season one only. I think he was desperate for a connection no matter where he got it, and let’s be honest, for a lot of those quick little things he was doing early in the season.
He was looking for all that warmth, and then, like, asking for that girl’s number. [00:58:00] He was, he was desperate for something more, and the second he got an opportunity for something maturer, he went straight for it. 100 percent dedicated to it. Buck has a tendency to 100 percent dedicate himself to things.
Ellen: Yeah. Okay.
Alice: Yeah. He, like Buck was shown, even in the pilot, he goes from zero to a hundred straight away. Yes.
Ellen: So maybe he wasn’t a sex addict at all. He was just you know, on the hunt for something.
Bex: It’s difficult looking back on these episodes having seen the rest of the series, having seen Buck’s origin story, knowing where he’s coming from.
Alice: Right?
Leonie: And you can’t exactly say much because like Ellen hasn’t watched like season two and you’re just like
Lily: I can’t just say the reason that Abby was like a wonderful choice for him in his own mind.
Bex: [00:59:00] But I think we can’t fully explain it, but I think we can see it from even in the few episodes that we got in season one, which was especially let go was the, the episode that he really first connected with Abby, which was the episode, quick reminder that was the rollercoaster where he lost his first person on a call and Abby was the only person who actually saw the buck was in pain yeah everybody else was brushing him off calling him a hero even his therapist, his trauma therapist was hooking up with him because she saw him on the news and then followed him on Facebook.
But the only person who wanted to talk to Buck, who wanted to make sure Buck was okay, was Abby. So that’s why he dove head first into a relationship with her because unlike everybody else that he’d ever had any kind of [01:00:00] relationship with, ie. sex with, Abby wanted Buck for Buck. Abby was interested for him as a person, not just his body, not just his looks. And that was
Alice: That’s it, like he’s, he’s young and pretty and a firefighter
Bex: But she was the first person who didn’t care about that. She didn’t care how young he was, she didn’t care how pretty he was, she didn’t care how cool his job was. She just cared about Evan.
And I think she was the first person in a really long time for him that had ever actually just cared about Evan. And that’s why that relationship makes sense for me. From both Abby falling for Buck and Buck falling for Abby.
Lily: Honestly, I believe the same. He saw someone that saw him as him and not as the, you know, firefighter playboy.
And he was like, Oh, so there’s genuine care and affection here. I need this. I’m going to a hundred percent throw myself at this wall and hope I stick.
Bex: [01:01:00] They both got something out of that relationship. They were both very different people at the beginning of the relationship than they were at the end of the relationship.
And I think they were both better people at the end of it. We got Buck 2.0 coming out of that relationship and we got Abby being, moving into the direction of being a whole person again, or at least wanting to be a whole person again.
Lily: That poor woman was in pieces, like she had given so many pieces of herself to other people and.
By the, yeah, honestly, Buck and, oh no, her name, Abby! (laughs) Buck and Abby helped each other grow in the time they needed to grow.
Alice: And yeah, sometimes you meet people and you are in a relationship with someone, like whether it’s romantic or not. [01:02:00] Sometimes people are who you need at the time. And not who you need forever.
Lily: Like Buck, probably,
Alice: And like, yes, it’ll, it’ll hurt when it leaves, but, but yeah, like, a lot of people are just like, Oh, you know, if you get in a relationship, it should be forever. And that’s not always how it works. And that shouldn’t be always how it works.
Lily: Especially when those two are at different stages of their life.
They were, they were happy together in the time they had. And they were that crutch they needed to grow. But Abby was at a time in her life where she had to rediscover herself and Buck was just beginning to discover himself and figure out who he was. And those are two completely different situations to be in, and in a relationship.
So it wasn’t going to work out. She was always going to leave. And he was always going to be there [01:03:00] Waiting by the door like a puppy.
Alice: Yeah.
Lily: Not to be rude to Buck in any means.
Alice: Oh, he’s a massive golden retriever. He’s a massive golden retriever.
Leonie: Golden retriever energy, man. Like, hands down, golden retriever energy.
Bex: Does anybody else have any other characters that they didn’t like from season 1?
Alice: Yeah, my least favourite was actually Hen from Season 1. I really I really liked her at the start and then the whole affair storyline.
Lily: Oh, and that made me so mad.
Alice: Like it took me so long to forgive her.
Lily: I still haven’t.
Alice: And by the end of season one, I definitely did not forgive her.
Lily: No.
Bex: You weren’t the only one. Macy has also commented in her feedback that she did not enjoy the storyline that Hen got in season one and it really made her dislike Hen and it’s taken her a long time to forgive Hen for the actions in that storyline.
Alice: [01:04:00] Like I do appreciate that they’re not just showing like, oh look we have a queer romance, it’s just stitched in for the diversity, they’re going to be perfect, like look at them go.
I appreciate that, I absolutely appreciate the storytelling, but as a character I did not like Hen and she definitely like needs to grow from season one.
Lily: She does.
Alice: Don’t want to comment too much, but yeah, season one, Hen, I was not a fan.
Lily: I really like, Hen, I had a disagreement mentally with, with her actions, but I really did not like Chimney’s fiance slash girlfriend.
I’m not sure if they actually got engaged.
Alice: Oh yeah. Tatiana.
Lily: Tatiana. Who in their right mind can be that dodgy of a human being? So immature and so one dimensional, not because of the writers, [01:05:00] but because of her own personality.
Leonie: She was a first responder, like
Lily: She was an addict to adrenaline.
Alice: Chaser.
Leonie: She loved the adrenaline, like second hand adrenaline. And I hated how Chimney basically, lied to her about all the calls.
Lily: I get why he did it though, he was desperate for love.
Leonie: Oh yeah, I get why he did it too. And that’s why I sort of didn’t like Chimney until, like, you know.
Lily: He just seemed pretty desperate to me in the beginning, but
Alice: yeah, post rebar Chimney is definitely better than pre rebar.
Ellen: Yeah. I was going to say, are you saying that the rebar fixed him? (laughs)
Alice: Yeah. I think we mentioned that in the, yes, the rebar definitely fixed him.
Ellen: Cause like, that’s pretty brutal like you know, treatment, but you know, I guess if it works.
Leonie: Zero out of 10 recommend, but like,
Alice: DIY lobotomy,
Lily: Yeah, DIY lobotomy, at least it, at least it didn’t ruin his motor skills by any chance.
Ellen: Or his pretty face
Lily: That man’s been through a lot this season, but
Leonie: the one that I actually really didn’t like, mm-Hmm.
Lily: I personally didn’t like, I personally didn’t like Karen in the beginning. [01:06:00] Karen, Karen frustrated me until like, the hen stuff with the cheating, but affair cheating. Was it an affair? Because it seems it was a one night thing, wasn’t it?
Bex: Still counts as an affair.
Alice: Eh, it kind of…
Lily: Yeah, because it was emotional.
Alice: And it dragged on.
Lily: Yeah, that’s what I was thinking.
Leonie: She forgave Hen too quickly.
Lily: I feel like she never forgave Hen that season.
Ellen: She came back at the end of it?
Alice: she moved back in, but I don’t think she forgave Hen.
Lily: You can see she’s still betrayed. But like, when I saw the first episode, was it episode one she showed up, or episode two?
Bex: Oh no, we didn’t get Karen until,
Leonie: Wasn’t it like, the cheat, the actual cheating?
Bex: Full Moon?
Lily: No, we, oh, we got her when Hen had to go to the prison to meet her, and then she, you can see that Karen really
Ellen: [01:07:00] It was the previous episode, right?
Lily: Yeah, I didn’t like, when I first watched it, first watch through, I was like, Oh my God, Ken, like Karen… Ken? Karen is Ken, that’s a man!
Alice: (singing) she’s just Ken. (laughs)
Lily: I thought she was so frustrating and overdramatic and then watching the later seasons and then rewatching it, I’m like, Oh honey, you’re so insecure and I understand.
You’ve dealt with this woman.
Alice: Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Lily: You’ve dealt with this woman’s back and forth. And now she’s just cheated on you. With a woman that you didn’t trust to begin with. I, ugh, poor woman. I love, I love Karen now, but I didn’t like her first watch through.
[01:08:00] When I first watched it,
Leonie: You didn’t like Bobby.
Lily: I didn’t like Bobby. Because…
Alice: I didn’t even know who Bobby was. I was like, which, which, who is this guy on my screen? Oh, that’s right. It’s Bobby again.
Lily: And Athena was just a goddess. I don’t know. I don’t get it. She was just peak. She’s got peak energy. Peak energy. I forgot the word. I’m just like, I’m just,
As a queer person, I was just watching her ass the whole first season. She is, every time she was walking around her house, I’m just like…
Oh, I know someone I actually hated. What’s his name? (clicks fingers) Athena’s. Michael. Michael’s such a wanker! Like,
Alice: Interesting.
Leonie: Why?
Lily: He, He did not respect Athena’s, like, wanting to process first before telling the kids. The second I saw that scene, I’m like, I understand. [01:09:00] The, I understand as someone who wants to be out and wants to be loud and proud, wanting to come out to your kids.
But in front of her, when she isn’t ready, you could have had this discussion with them in private, you could have had this discussion without Athena present, you could have had this discussion as a family, marriage counselling after divorce, during divorce, but instead you decided to whip it out after Athena verbally says she is uncomfortable and you’re breaching a boundary right now about his identity and about the fact that he’s seeing someone else and about the fact that he doesn’t want to be with Athena anymore and of course that’s going to be hurting Athena, the kids, and himself because of the snow he decided to do it.
Alice: See, I definitely see where you’re coming from [01:10:00] but when we first start like it’s I think it’s pretty clear that like Athena’s known this for a while and she just keeps putting it off.
Lily: That is true.
Alice: And so Like and if he hadn’t pushed her into it she would have just been like no, we’re just a family forever
Leonie: He basically ripped the bandaid off and said look now we’ve got to confront this We’ve got this head on, like, you know, my life is moving on, you can’t just keep things staying the way it is because you need it to stay that way.
Lily: I agree. I just didn’t want him to, you know, have Athena’s emotions raw and there in front of the kids.
Bex: I think that unfortunately was the catalyst for Athena’s storyline in season one.
Leonie: Yeah. It was a good catalyst though because we got to know who Athena was as a person. like, you know, professionally and personally.
Lily: Mm, I really like that side of 9-1-1 where you don’t just see the fact they go to these jobs and they do their jobs. [01:11:00] You see them outside of work and the way their different storylines interchange and the way the jobs affect them personally, especially with Buck. Like, with that whole rollercoaster. That set off so many relationships for him and different interactions and the way his character wove into other people’s daily lives.
It changed a lot. Like, the events, it’s not just a, Oh, here’s an episode, like, Monster of the Day, like, the first season of Supernatural, you know? How there was a monster a week, and that the monsters didn’t really affect much of the story in the first season, like they do later on.
Leonie: Don’t you love how the kid that’s not into Supernatural ties 9-1-1 back to Supernatural?
Lily: I’m aware of what this podcast is, Mother.
Alice: The pipeline is a straight line
Leonie: That pipeline like reared its head again.
Lily: It’s just, I like the way each job comes back, you know? [01:12:00] It’s not just a one and done. Okay. So we just save someone out of a, this is, I’m not sure if this happens in season one or even later seasons.
I’m just like, we save someone out of like a 29 story building. They were on fire and there’s parachutes everywhere, like, you know, it’s a, it’s an over exaggeration. It’s not just here’s a big event and now let’s move on to the next day and nothing has changed. Nothing in their dynamic has changed, you know, it doesn’t do that.
Bex: I think we’ve mentioned that that’s the difference between having a cohesive writer’s room. And having a bunch of writers who just come in and write an episode and then walk out again. It’s the difference between having an actual show bible that everybody reads and they know that the storylines of each of the characters and how each episode has to advance said storyline to, oh, this is a cool idea for this episode and then the next writer comes in the next week and goes, Oh, no, I don’t like that idea. I’m going to do something different this week. And it takes like two seasons for that writer to come back and go, you know what? I don’t know. I really liked that idea I had back in season five.
I’m gonna pick it back up again in season eight.
Lily: [01:13:00] Yeah, Grey’s Anatomy is a huge issue with that in the later seasons, my god.
Bex: Which again is probably the difference between Shonda Rhimes writing every single episode and knowing in her head all of the arcs, all of the storylines she wants to tell, and not having a cohesive writer’s room.
Lily: Well, thank you for having me. It is my bedtime and I am a old person. I need to go take my happy, happy day meds and my sleepy meds and go to sleepy time.
Ellen: Thank you, good night then!
Alice: Thanks for popping on, Lil!
Lily: No worries. I’m happy to share my very loud vocal opinions and a lot of emotionally charged thoughts. And now I can go.
Ellen: Awesome, thank you.
Bex: Yes, thank you for vindicating me and my love of Abby.
Lily: You’re welcome! She was raging on you and not showing the thoughts.
Leonie: I was not raging, per se. I was not mean. I could have said a lot worse, but I didn’t.
Ellen: [01:14:00] Anyone else have any opinions on characters before we move out of characters again? I was going to say that, and I may, I may like be excommunicated for this, but I didn’t always get on with Athena in this, in this season.
Bex: You know what? I, I’m going to agree with you a little bit there.
Alice: Yeah. I have very mixed feelings on Athena.
Ellen: Some of the time she was great. She was like badass and like just as you know, fiery and whatever as we would hope for her to be. Other times I thought she just went ahead and, and used her, you know, power to overpower other people and like, just jump straight in without really thinking about it.
Alice: absolutely. like when she arrests the teenager.
Leonie: Yeah, after May’s overdose?
Bex: [01:15:00] It’s been interesting watching this season critically and not just sitting back and watching it for pleasure, because the first couple of times that I watched it, I would have said that Athena was one of my favorite characters. But this time I’m starting to really pay attention to what she’s doing and her motivations for why she’s doing it.
I still think Angela Bassett is doing an amazing job with the character.
Ellen: Absolutely, yes.
Alice: Oh, absolutely. Love Angela Bassett.
Bex: I’m starting to disagree with the way that they are portraying Athena and the decisions that she’s making more and more, and I’m sort of starting to see the flaws in this woman that I originally thought was such a great character and it’s a little bit disheartening to realize that this woman that I had on this pedestal, like, oh my God, Athena Grant, this goddess of the LAPD is, she’s, she’s not She’s just a, she’s just a human being.
Ellen: And she’s going through a lot in this first season. [01:16:00] Like she’s you know, obviously in a, in a bad place for quite a lot of it. There’s a lot of events happening around her that she’s not in control of. So she takes that out on everybody, you know, the perps. But yeah. I don’t know. She’s just such a beautiful woman that you just forgive her.
Bex: I, I’m, it still blows my mind that she is 60 years old in this season.
Leonie: I know, right?
Alice: It’s insane. Yeah.
Leonie: That woman looks good.
Ellen: Yeah. All right. What else did we have on our list to talk about?
Bex: Not on the list, but I will throw it open. What was your favorite emergency of season one? Your favorite call out for the 118?
Ellen: Oh my gosh.
Alice: Ooh, that’s a good one.
Bex: I’ll, I’ll kick it off. Seven seasons in and it’s still my favourite. Buck doing the manoeuvre. [01:17:00] That’s my favorite call out. The guy standing on the balcony threatening to jump. I don’t think he is actually going to jump. He just wants to make his girlfriend think that he’s going to, so she’ll give him back.
Leonie: Oh, and Bobby tells the story?
Bex: Bobby’s telling the story. Buck lowers himself down and then on the cue, he just swings out and kicks this guy into the balcony. That is, that is my favorite of season one, of most of the show is Buck doing the maneuver.
Alice: Yeah. It’s so good.
Ellen: All right, you can spoil me for this, but do they ever do the manoeuvre again?
Bex: No.
Ellen: They even named it and everything. I don’t know.
Alice: Yeah. I wish they did, and I wish they’d let Chim do it once. I can’t do it, but I wish he’d do it.
Bex: See, that’s the other thing I love about manoeuvre. It becomes such a big thing that when Chimney is in a coma, Buck is telling him, you can do the manoeuvre if you just wake up, and yet nobody ever does the maneuver ever again.
Alice: Oh, I, I just love Hen being like, “Don’t let him do the maneuver, he can’t do the maneuver.” (laughs)
Ellen: That’s a shame. [01:18:00] I thought that the, for the drama of it, I just loved the whole airplane crash thing. Like I didn’t love it because I am mortally terrified of airplane crashes in general. And in fact, going on a plane makes me very nervous, but I really enjoyed that episode in terms of not just the actual emergency itself and how they handled it, but the production value of that episode is so good that it really takes you into the action and makes you terrified for everybody.
So, yeah, I liked that. But in terms of, of like you know, comedy, I think those two guys with the tapeworm are just great. Just great. I laughed. A lot.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: In terms of like, because yeah, the plane crash was definitely like my favorite tension wise. [01:19:00] But in terms of like, one that horrified me was the motorcycle accident in the last episode.
Ellen: Oh yeah, that was pretty brutal.
Leonie: Yes, oh my goodness.
Ellen: And that sort of thing really happens.
Bex: The legs on the motorbike are gonna stick with me.
Alice: Because it’s something that happens too.
Ellen: That’s part of the reason why I, like my, my husband rides a motorbike to work and it, it is a significant anxiety factor for me. I mean, he’s quite, he’s a very safe rider, or so he tells me, I mean, I’m not, I’m not there with him on the bike, but you know, it is, it is a worry because these accidents do happen like that and it’s not,
Alice: yeah. And the issue often is the not the rider.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s the idiots driving around them who do unpredictable things. Yeah.
Alice: Like when my brother got his motorcycle license and bought his first motorbike, I was like, cool, this is the link to the org, the organ donation registry, please make sure you’ve filled it out.
[01:20:00] And Yeah, he didn’t really get it. Now that he’s got his puppy, he’s just like, oh my God, I’d die for this thing. And I’m like, yep. How do you think we feel with you? We raised you and then you got, went and go get a motorcycle.
Ellen: You’re exactly like a puppy.
Alice: He is.
Ellen: that was a nasty one. Leonie, did you have a favorite one?
Leonie: The plane. That sticks out to me as well because I’m like you, I’m an absolute nervous flyer. Like, you know, I panic attack. It, it, it’s amazing. But yeah, it has to be the snake thing. Like, not what they did to the snake. It was more to the fact of they’re standing in the room, this poor woman’s getting like, you know, the absolute life crushed out of her and they’re just standing around like debating [01:21:00] Okay, well, what are we gonna do?
We can give it a sedative. Do we kill the snake? Do we sedate it? Like, what are we doing? It’s just like, oh, okay. Here we go. You guys are taking too long, chop. Like, that whole dynamic in that episode, just that scene, I’m just like, I would have just chopped its head off. My, animal loving daughter was absolutely mortified.
But, you know, it’s just that one really stuck out to me because it’s like, why are you even debating this? It’s a human life over a snake.
Ellen: Yeah.
Leonie: You know, you can get another snake, but you can’t get another human.
Ellen: Maybe it’s worth considering for half a second whether there’s any way you can get the snake off, but not for like two whole minutes while you’re
Leonie: Yeah, it’s like, okay, this person’s about to pass out.
Do something. Do your job. But no, definitely the plane is like number one in my brain because, you know, that was their first big major, major thing [01:22:00] that they had to like, you know, pull their resources and get shit done. And yeah, it was just the production value, as you mentioned, was just amazing because You know, you got to see a broader aspect of it, like, you know, you got to see the boats going to the plane instead of it being like a green screen and stuff like that. It was amazing.
Ellen: Do we know, is there any behind the scenes footage of any of these early episodes? Like, I know some TV YouTube channels with you know, extra feature type things. Do we, do we have that for this?
Bex: Kenneth is on TikTok constantly doing behind the scenes stuff. I’m sure if we went back through his early early social media, we would find a lot of behind the scenes. [01:23:00] I think that this is where, I know that there’s this big push for shows to go digital, shows to go streaming services and not so much releasing physical media anymore, but I really miss the DVD extras.
The behind the scenes, it’s the little making of documentaries that you’d get on DVDs.
Alice: The commentary! I miss the commentary.
Bex: Yes. I really wish that they would release DVDs of 9-1-1 because I would hope that people had cameras going doing behind the scenes stuff, not just for social media, that they could put together all of these little featurettes so that we could see the behind the scenes.
Leonie: And blooper reels. Like, you know, I miss the good old blooper reels.
Like, I love watching, like, you know, a scene of a show. You see the actual scene of the show, but then the blooper, like, you know, from that specific scene pops up in your head when you’re watching it. Like, it could be a gut wrenching scene to bring it back to Supernatural for a second.
[01:24:00] Like, you know, the Pearl scene. In Like, in “Lebanon”. Like, all I see in that scene, it’s meant to be a gut wrenching scene, all I can see is JDM getting hit in the penis with that ball. That’s all I can see now when I see that scene. And I would love to see some of this with 9-1-1, like, you know, behind the scene, like, you know, I think Kenneth Choi released the earlier tidbit, I can’t remember what season it was from, whether it was later seasons or if it was first season, of Peter Kraus walking into a window.
Bex: Yeah, I’ve seen that clip.
Leonie: On his TikTok. I think that was the first season?
Bex: The very first episode, the pilot episode, where they go to the call of the boy who is drowning. Yeah, and he walks right into the water, the window. They started shooting from the 118 inside the [01:22:00] house, walking out to the pool.
It’s giant floor to ceiling glass windows. Peter didn’t realize that they were shut and just walked smack into the glass.
Leonie: [01:25:00] Yep, straight into it. Yep.
Ellen: Oh my god.
Leonie: It was absolutely hilarious. That’s the only behind the scene I have seen, besides like, you know, the occasional whatever they do like, you know, for shits and gigs. But I really miss the blooper stuff, and I want it back.
Ellen: I’ve done that before, walking into a glass wall like that.
Leonie: Oh, who hasn’t?
Alice: We had a teacher that we didn’t like do it in front of us. (laughs)
Ellen: Well, that’s always worthwhile.
Leonie: That would be hilarious.
Bex: So one of the calls that the 118 were sent to in season one was the tiger that got loose in the zoo.
And one of our, one of the friends of the show, Nell, who has been So good at giving us answers to our questions on Twitter. When we have random questions about Americana, like orange pill bottles or [01:26:00] Target and how Target is different in the US than it is in Australia. Nell used to work at a zoo.
And so they’ve given us a little bit of feedback, given us some stories about when they worked at the zoo. Relating to what happens when animals get out. Apparently different animals have different levels of responses, there is a tier system. When the non dangerous animals like a budgie gets out, it was basically business as usual with a side of keep an eye out please.
They once had a macaw not return from their flyover of the zoo, and he was found just riding a carousel, much to the amusement of literally everyone in the zoo. (laughs) For larger animals they never experienced one escaping, but they [01:27:00] were trained that your job was to run to the nearest indoor space, getting people to come with you if you could, but you couldn’t make the guests flee with you.
At the zoo that they worked at, there was a ride that was like a ferris wheel, where the guests would go up in little cars. And if you were operating that ride and guests were on it when a dangerous animal escaped, you were to hold your position, and a member of the weapons team would cover you.
Under no circumstances were you to go onto one of the little gondolas, even if a tiger was coming right at you.
Ellen: Oh, jeez.
Alice: That’s wild!
Bex: They did have, she does have they do have one story of an escape that they were in the zoo for, which was a greater kudu, which is kind of like an antelope from Africa. Got out over part of a fence. Once she got out, she panicked because she didn’t know where she was and she didn’t know how to get back into her enclosure.
[01:28:00] As far as they were concerned, the biggest risk was that her panic was that in her panic, she could hurt herself or somebody else. And she was running in a direction that would put her near some of the big cats, which would cause chaos. As a member of the attractions team, Nell’s role was to basically keep people away from the area where she was and pay attention to the radio.
The vet team sent out, the vet team was sent out with a tranquilizer gun to come and get her. Finally the moment came for them to shoot her and the tranq gun jammed. No worries though, there’s a backup all the way back at the vet center. So they were waiting for another 10 minutes while they got the backup.
Finally, they got her sedated and taken back to the vet center to get checked out and to recover emotionally before being put back in her enclosure.
Thank you, Nell, for sending in those stories. [01:29:00] That’s one of the things we love about people giving us feedback about the show is if you actually work in or have experiences like the one 18 have, whether it’s you are a firefighter, you are a paramedic, or whether you’ve worked at a zoo to to write in or send us an email or leave us a voice message and tell us how badly the show fucked it up.
Ellen: Yes. And we have to thank Hanne for leaving us a detailed comment about how the paramedics and firefighter situation works in Germany. That was on one of our earlier episodes where we were asking about that. So.
I won’t read out the whole comment cause it’s very long, but basically thank you, Hanne, for telling us all about that. Really interesting info about how things work over there. And it’s not, it sounds like it’s not so different for, from the Australian method as well. [01:30:00] So yeah, thank you all of those people for your feedback.
Really love hearing from you.
Bex: I think we’re done.
Ellen: [01:30:00] Have we exhausted everything on the list now?
Alice: I think so. We’ve had a heated Abby debate. Yeah.
Leonie: That my child’s like, no, you know what? I’m with Bex on this one. It’s like, no.
Ellen: That was great. It was good to have you.
Leonie: There’s just so much more I could say, but I can’t because like, you know.
Bex: You’ve been called out. You’re just going to be digging yourself in deeper.
Leonie: And it’s also, and it’s also only season one. So I can’t give, my full thoughts!
Ellen: Yeah. You’ll just have to come back for a later season
Bex: And trust me, Lily is going to be backing me up all the way on the rest of the thoughts too.
Leonie: Oh, of course, of course.
Ellen: Well, interestingly, season two like interestingly for me anyway, I was surprised to discover that season two has like 23 episodes, right? It’s a lot longer.
Leonie: [01:31:00] Yeah, it was a full spread.
Bex: Yeah. I think that they proved themself in season one that the show was going to give Fox the numbers that they wanted, so they ordered. So because the show started in January, so that was mid television season, so they only got half a season.
Season two, they were allowed to premiere at the beginning of the season and have a full run.
Leonie: Right, okay. Which is usually, what, about September, isn’t it? In America?
Bex: Yeah. Summer. It usually hits around summer.
Leonie: Or about July.
Ellen: Don’t they usually start in the fall? Like in October kind of time.
Leonie: Yeah. I just think it’s really, really weird, like, you know, coming from Australia and then you’re like, oh yeah, premiering this fall, and I’m like, that’s our spring.
Alice: Yeah, you’ve got to like, do the maths and you’re just like Halloween?
Leonie: Yeah, and trying to do the math [01:32:00] and you’re like, huh?
Ellen: But also they start promoting that stuff like, now, for, like, even before now. And so, mentally you’re going, that’s like, over six months away. Why? Why so far?
Leonie: It’s a good build, like, you know, watch this show, watch this show, watch this show, and I’m like, yeah, well, hurry up and premiere it so I can watch it. But then you don’t want to be let down because they build it up so much that the show’s kind of shit.
Ellen: It’s just like those reality TV shows in Australia where they’re like, yeah, we’re going to watch I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, but it’s not on for another three months. So you just have to watch these silly ads for all this time.
Bex: But to go back to what you were saying, Ellen, it will be interesting what you think of the show as far as storyline wise and pacing wise when it goes from 10 episodes to having a full 22 to be able to spread out a little bit and really to dig its heels into the stories. [01:33:00] Or whether it does that at all, whether it just, it’s just, you know, 22 episodes of “Trapped” over and over and over again. (laughs)
Leonie: I would be interested to see what Ellen’s thoughts are on the character developments from what she’s seen in episode one to episode two. Like, see if any of her opinions change.
Bex: You mean season one to season two?
Ellen: Season one to season two?
Leonie: Yeah, that one. Guys, it’s getting late here, leave me alone. Like, you know, to see what you think they did good and what you think they did bad in, like, you know, order of the development of the show in a whole, like, you know, taking it back to what Bex was saying, like, you know, with the pacing and stuff, like, you know, because you’ve only seen the first 10 episodes, now that it’s being fleshed out, how do you think it’ll change, like, you know, after this one?
[01:34:00] Would be very interesting to get your thoughts on that, like, when it eventually gets here.
Bex: I think that’ll be a question for the season two wrap up.
Leonie: Yeah. So I want to see how much it’s changed from like tonight’s episode to, you know.
Ellen: Someone write that down.
Alice: We’ve got three, We’ve got three “begins” episodes in season two as well.
Ellen: Oh yeah. They’re like the origin story ones. Yes?
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: Okay. I shall gird my loins for pain. I’m sure it’s coming. Any other comments we want to make about season one before we kind of wrap up?
Bex: I think we’re good. I think we did good. I think we did. We did, yeah.
Leonie: I’m just dying at the fact that like, you know, we weren’t actually videoing because you should have seen Lil’s face, Lil’s arm movements, the whole like, just anger on the face when I’m trying to like, you know, explain my hatred of Abby without giving away too much because, [01:35:00] you know, you’ll see why and just saying.
Alice: And Lil just walks in like, I would die for Abby, how dare you?
Leonie: And then next moment, like, you know, it looked like if looks could kill, I would be a little pile of ash on the floor. And Lil’s like, no, I need to say something. I’m like, oh, fuck me, okay.
Ellen: Okay. So before we finish, we have to say thank you so much Leonie, for coming to join us for this episode.
Leonie: Thanks for having me. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having me guys. I appreciate it.
Ellen: Yeah. And say, say a big thank you to Lil as well, when you when in the morning, when you guys get up.
Leonie: Yeah, for sure.
Ellen: Thank you. It was great to have you your, you know, extra insights into this stuff. So from here we will head into episode two (Bex: season two), but first I think we have planned the drinking game that we’ve been promising for all, for quite some time now. [01:36:00] We’re going to choose an episode. I’m not sure which one we are going to do yet, but we’ll have to, if anyone’s got any ideas on either prompts for a drinking game or an episode that might be a good one to do, then let us know.
Bex: Oh I’ve got a whole list.
Ellen: But we will do that. So that will be, we may end up having a bit of a break before we start season two, just because my co hosts are both going away the next few weeks, but I promise by the time we get back to filming that I will have voice back again because somehow I’ve managed to be, have a cold again.
So yeah, that will be coming soon. Safe travels you two.
Leonie: Can’t wait to hear all about it.
Alice: especially Bex. I’m just going down to my parents.
Leonie: Yes, vicariously, man. Vicariously. That’s all I’m saying is vicariously.
Ellen: [01:37:00] So as I think our first wrap up episode has gone pretty well and that’s mostly due to the people who sent us feedback. Thank you so much to Nell and Macy and also Hanne and like Lucia and all of the people who’ve been responding to us on Twitter and the people who’ve been liking our Tik Tok posts and all that stuff.
We have had a, you know, a successful first season. Thanks to all of you. Thank you so much. And we are loving discussing this series so far, aren’t we? We are.
Alice: absolutely
Ellen: So we will continue. And as always, you can find all of the ways to, you know, all of our social media links and all of that on our website, thatweewooshow.com, including transcripts for all of the episodes. If you are like, just a reminder that if you want to help us to get the word out there about the podcast, you can leave us a review or a rating on any of the ways that you listen to this podcast. [01:38:00] So Spotify, Apple, whichever way. Anything that you can do to interact with the show will help us out.
So thank you everybody. Thanks for listening to this episode and we’ll catch you all next time. Bye.
Alice: Bye.
Bex: Bye.
Leonie: Toodles!
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